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Amanda Barnes Cook's avatar

Love this. It makes me curious about the overlap between shame and willpower. I’ve long thought that willpower is a bullshit concept (one that doesn’t even require much explanation beyond Frog and Toad’s “Cookies”), and some of what you’re talking about here is all tied up with that. (The ways that the attempt at restriction actually causes bingeing, etc.) I guess the relationship is probably that a culture of shame promotes willpower as the tool people “should” use, if only they were good/pure/moral enough to do so. Looking forward to reading more!

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This article has great info touching on many possible topics *but* I guess it's bothering me because this isn't my personal experience of shame at all? For me, I'll often feel an intense pulse of shame over something and then spring into action around it. As long as it isn't that chronic, helpless kind of shame, just the memory of being ashamed can keep me devoting my efforts to something positive.

Internalized transphobia is a good example. Sure, I internalized a cringe response to other trans people having features that I'm insecure about in myself––but feeling shame at not doing right by other members of my community, even in my own head, motivated me to discipline myself to stop feeling that cringe response, stop judging, see the beauty and euphoria in other trans people, etc.

I had a good-paying job in tech management circa 2015-2016 when I started seeing younger and/or less economically-secure people come out as nonbinary and have to fight that in their workplaces. I was ashamed that I'd stayed in the closet and left them to fight on all of my behalf (as well as their own, of course), so I came out at work and then transitioned visibly. I'm really glad I did both of those and it's really enhanced my life and my community to act on shame in this way.

Similarly, at the end of 2018/beginning of 2019, inspired by the shame I felt watching the youth fight climate change while I did nothing, I quit my job and spent a year devoted to organizing collective, disruptive action for climate and housing justice.

I couldn't list all the times I've felt ashamed when I got into an argument with someone on some political/social matter where I suspected I might be in the wrong, and that drove me to obsessively educate myself and then in many cases take action. I do think that shame-driven allyhood distorts people's efforts at collective change in many negative ways, but I don't think it's the shame itself that's the problem, but rather that people don't know when or how to put shame aside, and how to navigate it in a helpful way in general. IMO trying to eliminate shame doesn't make a lot more sense than trying to eliminate sugar cravings (though I know nothing you said above advocates for eliminating shame, I don't think you addressed that question either way).

Anyway, so if shame is really an avoidance-based emotion, why is my experience that it often motivates me to positive action? I don't think I'm misidentifying some other emotion as shame, and I'll point out that anger is also not always an approach-based emotion either, if it becomes chronic and you believe it can't be changed, it just kind of simmers sourly inside you and can definitely lead to withdrawal from other people, lack of self-care, etc. I think shame acts similarly––if you feel momentary shame over something that you think you can change, and you know how to navigate the various, changing emotions inside you, it can motivate action.

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